Sometimes it amazes me that people can look past other people’s differences and see the humanity behind them.
I find it fascinating that as societies, communities, we develop a certain collective consciousness, where, even though we might have some conflicts, we’re a cohesive whole.
Along come some outsiders, ‘others’, and at first they’re viewed with mistrust and suspicion. And yet, there always are some people who are willing to buck convention and be nice to the newcomers.
Speaking for Canada, there was a strong reason that Canada opened its doors to immigration in the early 1900’s. A lot of native Canadians don’t know this, but there’s a strong reason why we’re such a multicultural nation.
Canada is a vast land mass, with a huge, very powerful neighbour to the south, Canada was afraid of being overwhelmed. They needed more people! And so they opened the doors to immigration to settle the west. But they didn’t want just anyone. They wanted people who could blend in, assimilate, basically they wanted white people.
Right after the second world war, even though they’d fought with Germans, German nationals were quickly considered non-threatening and allowed into the country. Even before Jewish refugees from Europe were allowed in, the Germans were allowed in.
At one point the prime minister Mackenzie King even announced that they wanted people who would assimilate. They couldn’t allow people from non-white countries in because they ‘couldn’t take the climate’.
But the immigration wave was slowing down. People don’t emigrate from their country unless there are strong reasons. There are three basic reasons: economics, security and opportunity for their children. Now that Europe was stabilized, there was less immigration from the white countries and so Canada had to open the door to other less desirables.
It wasn’t until 1963 that Canada opened the door to non-white immigrants.
There is a reason for this. The only ones who were allowed into the country were skilled labourers, people who’d work hard. Assimilation was assumed. And in return these labourers would contribute taxes to the national coffers.
Then along came Lester B. Pearson with his ideas of human rights. And following him, in the sixties, came a charismatic leader named Pierre Elliot Trudeau, from Quebec.
I remember Trudeau. He was the first prime minister who said that we, as a country, would be multicultural.
People didn’t have to assimilate. We’d recognize all cultures and they’d all be part of Canada. This was in part a gesture to pacify Quebec, a province that clung to their French roots and long refused to assimilate.
I remember listening to speeches by Trudeau on our old black and white T.V. My father found him fascinating.
As immigrants, we could stand a bit taller, not so humble. And in time, we could appreciate the fact that we were Canadian, just like almost every other Canadian whose family had come to this land somewhere in the distant past.
I think a lot of people don’t realize how much immigrants contribute to the prosperity in the West. There are very good reasons why Western countries continue to allow the influx of people from other countries.
It’s a way of maintaining the status quo.
Before, immigrants provided cheap labour for nation building.
Now, immigrants are often highly-skilled people looking for opportunity. (The exception would be refugees from war-torn countries) When immigrants arrive they have to set up homes, they buy stuff, and they often bring in wealth from their homelands. This stimulates the local economy.
And the taxes they pay, help pay for services.
These immigrants actually represent a ‘brain drain’ from their home countries, because the brightest and most educated are often the first to leave for greener Western pastures.
And right now, with the advent of the birth control pill, the local populations of Western countries are not having enough children. Without immigration, the aging population and the social security entitlements that go with them, would have no tax base to support them, so immigration is necessary to keep the tax machine oiled smoothly.
Too often people in the West see this as a one-way relationship. That immigrants should be darn well grateful to be here when it is really a mutually beneficient relationship.
One of the few times that the social situation gets rough is when there is a recession and then local people start grumbling that the immigrants are taking away all the jobs.
What people don’t realize is that immigrants will often work harder and for less money than any of the locals.
There are many a taxi driver that has a Phd., in fact multiple Phd’s. I met one in Vancouver who told me his life story, how he’d hopped around from country to country and finally settled in Vancouver. He liked the climate there, but still wished he could use his education.
I’m not sure why I blogged about this. I guess I just wanted to talk about things that are not often understood over here.
36 Responses
Immigration Solicitor in Rochester
08|Apr|2013 1Hello! I just wanted to ask if you ever have any problems with hackers?
My last blog (wordpress) was hacked and I ended up losing several weeks
of hard work due to no backup. Do you have any methods to protect against hackers?
Rukhsana Khan
10|Apr|2013 2Nope. So far, no problems with hackers.
Donald W. Bales
23|Oct|2013 3I can see why Canada or other countries would want highly skilled immigrants. As to their assimilation, that is another question. Someone who is a full blown Muslim
might find it hard to believe in a nation state and to feel more of a connection to
an individual country. I can see how a country might want low skilled people to do
the work that natives don’t want to do. However, it seems to me that the solidarity of the country will be diluted. It there a Muslim majority country where
non-Muslims have the same civil rights as do Muslims? Is there a built-in in fifth column in every country that has a substantial Muslim population? How will rentier states (Persian gulf states) going to fare when such a large percentage of
the population are not natives. Of course, if and when the oil runs out, there will be hell to pay. Is Europe finished? Is the U.S on the way to be finished-not just by illegal immigration, but by all the other bad trends in society and economy and
government?
Rukhsana Khan
24|Oct|2013 4You said: “Someone who is a full blown Muslim
might find it hard to believe in a nation state and to feel more of a connection to
an individual country.”
I think that statement is a bit xenophobic, it’s not a statement you might utter about other faith based groups. I’ve never heard anyone question the loyalty or patriotism of devout Christians or Jews, but it seems okay to do so for Muslims?
And yet I do know that there are immigrants who come because of the human rights and who don’t feel totally invested in their adopted countries.
In France, they’ve ghettoized the North African immigrants so much that they’ve turned their back on trying to integrate within the society.
There has to be give and take on both sides.
As for the state of Muslim majority countries, in terms of human rights, there’s a LOT of work to do!
I guess I’m so Canadian or North American that it’s not something I even dwell on. I’m more interested in the situation here, because this is my country.
Han-Sol Min
01|Apr|2014 5Very impresseive article : I really appreciate it 🙂
Leah Ma
07|Nov|2014 6I am not xenophobic, the opposite actually. In college I dated guys from many countries including India and Iran. My husband of 51 years is Chinese. My extended family is so diverse we make the UN look inbred.
And yet I have a problem with some groups who can not and will not assimilate into this country and follow its laws. I have read several stories of muslim men in the US or Canada who, angry with daughters or wives, have murdered them–and have claimed them honor killings.
This does not sit well with American culture and I worry that this is what they will bring more and more of with their religion. They’re not like Chinese immigrants who come here, get a job, watch football and drink beer. Chinese have no religion and fit in quite well with Americans.
You realize that if this country EVER had a revolution it would quite literally fall apart due to all the racial, cultural, criminal, class, etc. groups. I worry that this will happen because of the worsening economic picture and the vanishing middle class.
I guess my main idea is–pick immigrants who will assimilate and who will follow the laws of the country in which they live and will not try to impose the laws of the country in which they previously lived. If you have reason to think they can not promise that–don’t bring them in as immigrants!
Rukhsana Khan
09|Nov|2014 7Hi Leah, You raise some interesting points.
The way I feel is that as long as the customs that people are bringing in don’t impinge on the rights of others, what’s the harm?
If assimilation was a requirement of Canadian citizenship, then I would fail, and yet I’m probably every bit as proudly Canadian as you are.
The problem with the idea of assimilation is that it’s inconsistent. The Europeans didn’t assimilate to Canadian culture when they came, they created their own identity, and in fact tried to impose that on the first nations with the idea of civilizing them.
Drinking beer to me is not an act of civility. And I’m sure many first nations wish fervently that alcohol was never introduced to them!
What does the government care if I wear a scarf on my head and clothes that cover me up according to the modesty requirements of my religion???
As for those who kill their daughters and claim it’s an honor killing, throw them in jail and toss away the key! It’s got nothing to do with honor and everything to do with the misogyny that exists in so many cultures!
I think as long as you pay your taxes and obey the laws you have the same rights as any other Canadian. What you believe and what you wear should have no bearing on it.
All the best,
Rukhsana
Gloria M.
09|Jan|2015 8When those who do not follow the same traditions and customs and shared values invade a country legally or illegally there is strife. There is a reason that through centuries a certain race of people lived in different parts of the world. The climate was more conducive to some and their way of life given the climate. They shared language, food, and most importantly religion. A watered down culture happens when several different peoples are thrown together and many end up not knowing who they are eventually. A person born in the Middle East suddenly brought by parents to Europe and feeling alienated as in not fitting in. You see this now with no go zones in Europe. That is terrible and shameful. Europe should not be allowing this and those fools who immigrate there should not want it. If you want to live in your culture why oh why do you leave it behind for a new culture in a different country? If I leave my country for another I would do so knowing it is my responsibility to learn the culture and progress towards embracing it. No female in modern western society should be covering her face with clothes. If she wants to do so it is find, no one minds that females dress strangely in their home countries, but to dress out of normal in another country is wrong, unless you do so in the privacy of your own home. There is no excuse to not assimilate none what so ever except laziness or simply defiance of a countries rule of law and values.
Rukhsana Khan
10|Jan|2015 9Problem with that Gloria is that westerners don’t always apply the same standards when they go to third world or Muslim countries. Perhaps some of them adopt local dress and start to cover themselves, but others flaunt their western ways in an almost provocative way. Wearing shorts and short dresses for example.
The thing is that I live in Canada. And in Canada, as in other western countries, freedom of religion is a highly esteemed right.
Assimilation is never a condition of citizenship. (It is an assumption.)
But if the way you dress is prescribed within your religion, then what is the person supposed to do? We are not supposed to have to choose between our identities. We are supposed to be free to practice our religion and be citizens.
And as for why someone would want to live in a new country and not leave their culture behind, well mostly it’s because of opportunity and security.
Western countries and their rapacious colonialism have rendered most of the world uninhabitable and so screwed up, the only safe place is the west. That’s why people come.
And I know personally that my father brought us here for educational opportunities.
I am a VERY good Canadian! And there is NOTHING wrong with the way I dress and the fact that I have great esteem for my religion of Islam. I’d even go so far as saying that Islam gives me the moral infrastructure to be an even better Canadian.
Zie L.
18|Mar|2015 10This situation of influx of immigrations after immigrations of onslaught aliens coming into countries that open their door is wholly promoted by the Internationalists, super rich zionist/Khazar bankers to break down all national boarders and create maximum chaos. It will be to achieve nothing but the one world order where people’s traditions and culture are totally diluted and stripped to nothing until people are just nothing but a contributing unit of economic. The guise of personal freedom and liberty is nothing but a social reprogramming/engineering pounded down thru privately own mass media with agenda in mind.
How much are people at ease when they have to deal with all types of foreign backgrounds and colors and constantly having to worry about what’s the politically correct things to say or do. You get non of that when you have sovereign homogenous population. No wonder kids are going crazy when they have no idea their roots are.
I was forced to immigrate when I was little to the States by my parents. I had a wonderful childhood growing up in Asia. After moved to US it was like my whole existence was turned upside down and life became a very guarded cumbersome chore. You constantly feel unease about your foreign surrounding, people and there’s always a disconnection.
This internationalism has got to stop, who wants a world of disconnect individual economic battery units without traditions, cultural heritage, familiarity, and harmonious homogeny? I certainly don’t want to visit German and see whole bunch of Muslims walking around. Would you want your house be occupied by strangers and call it a good thing?
Rukhsana Khan
20|Mar|2015 11Actually yeah. I enjoy learning from strangers.
It’s challenging to deal with other cultures and other ways of thinking but ultimately I think it’s a good thing.
NINA
20|Apr|2015 12Don’t mind immigrants at low amounts entering any country, but when they arrive at mass numbers, that is invasion of those countries they enter.
The citizens of those countries will suffer to support the immigrants. On the other hand the Immigrants will over produce of their own kind, and over take the countries eventually. Mass amounts of immigrants can create fast changes and those changes will affect mostly the natives.
soultana
20|Apr|2015 13My opinion is also, when immigrants don’t respect the laws and the citizens of the counties they enter, immediately should be deported!
I help built my christian city with my tax money, and when a muslim immigrant tells me I cannot walk or cross the street due to their anomalous and hipocritic prayers show off on the streets, my Government should stand against that act and protect me, and band the Koran! As a Christian, can I pray on the streets in a muslim country? I bet my head off! Looking forwards to a new president for our country, and justice for all. If Muslims cannot be peaceful people, then hit the road jack!
Rukhsana Khan
30|Apr|2015 14Soultana, the things you’ve said are very intolerant from a North American point of view. If someone is praying on the street (and I’ve done that) how does that hinder you in any way? And why would anyone ban the Quran??? What did it ever do to you except hold up the Christian doctrines as something to be respected as a source of previous scripture.
I think we all need to be a little more tolerant of each other.
I think Christians can pray on any street in a Muslim country as long as they’re not bothering anyone, but maybe I’m being naive.
And it’s not just Muslims who need to be peaceful.
I see very little peace in your message here.
Alex
27|Aug|2015 15I agree with soultana on this! There is a reason why peole are created different and spread all over the world with different values, belief and culture.
Jane
15|Sep|2015 16I am a mixed white woman whose family came in 1635 from the French side and 1850 from the Irish side. I loved the Canada we HAD in the 1970s and 1980s right up to I would say 1990. I have lived in 4 provinces since age 25 since I had to relocate for work. I had to leave my birth city 7 times which is in New Brunswick. People there are going hungary but it never makes the news because its white. Canada does not need immigration very much it is all propaganda. If you look at Norway, they have 5 million residents and have the highest standard of living in the world. Canada does not create jobs. Canada has lots thousands of jobs from automation, outsourcing, high hydro rate forced 400,000 jobs out of Ontario’s manufacturing sector in the past 8 years. Massive immigration is for reason, to wipe out the middle class, drive up the cost of living and rents and housing, wipe out the unions and drive down the wages in all sectors. This way rich people who are greedy can make more money. The real reason Canada started to go downhill and let me tell you, I have many friends who are minorities who came to Canada 30 years ago or more, they think the same as I do, they do not like multiculturalism and how Canada is going nor do my people. Natives are very upset as well and are joining together with whites to create an alliance as both groups are being oppressed. I read recently someone is rewriting the affirmative action programs to exclude natives and French people, we already know white males and now white females are excluded. There are many places that will no longer hire a white person, the universities are using the code word diversity to be racist to whites. There are many whites like my family who have been here 400 years and we should have more rights in hiring since its our nation and our people who built the country from the ground up. TFWS come at 500,000 a year to create a jobless youth generation at 32% unemployment. If you check back into the 1970s there was no youth unemployment then. There was more work in the 70s and 80s than any other time in our history. Immigrants on visas and TFWS are taking a lot of the jobs. Check out the job bank there is now a section just for someone overseas to steal a job from a local. The other issue is students taking the places of our local students so they have to wait a few years to be accepted into certain programs. Canada gets the world’s leftovers in this regard. Think about this, Chinese kids coming here cannot get into colleges in china so they are not so smart are they. And why are so many people coming from india to take jobs here, they are not so bright. Canada already has the brightest in the world we don’t need immigrants. The reason for this mess is Trudeau wanted to destroy English Canada, so his idea was bring in thousands of non-English people into English Canada and in quebec, bring in thousands of frenchspeaking peoples to keep up. Now 2015, English culture is practically wiped out. French come to steal jobs in English Canada (Ottawa) but if you are English they will make you homeless in quebec just go try to apply for welfare and you will be denied if your born here and not French. Canada is going broke. 30% of our taxes is for healthcare and Ontario has 1 million more OHIP cards than residents (that is foreign people in other nations and some americans getting free healthcare on our dime!). How do you like that! The services and money it costs for immigration and subsidizing housing and ESL etc is draining our country. Canada has the highest unemployment in the G7 nations. Hardly any immigrant comes here to start a big business most open a corner store wow, and hire their own!
Rukhsana Khan
15|Sep|2015 17I’m sorry you feel that way.
There is absolutely nothing stopping you from getting a better life. Canada is full of opportunities. You just need to work for it.
Victor
26|Sep|2015 18Rukhsana. You are being naive. I’ve travelled extensively to a number of Muslim countries and I know for a fact that a Christian cannot pray openly on the street of most of them. For example, in Saudi Arabia the religious police regularly patrolled the camps to ensure the foreigners had no Christian iconography, especially at Christmas. You ran the risk of being jailed for a Christmas tree. There have been numerous reports of Christians being attacked and killed in Pakistan and other Muslim countries.
If you want to follow your religion, no problem. But if your imaginary friend wants you, in any way to impose your religion on me or on my country I have a problem with that. You mentioned in an earlier post that westerners going to Muslim countries wearing shorts, etc. were being disrespectful. Well, same applies to Muslims here who want to impose sharia law, wear face coverings, put blackout curtains on swimming pools so they don’t have to look at women in bathing suits, refuse to serve alcohol even though it’s part of the job they signed up for, and on and on.
I think more than anything else it’s that double standard that Muslims have that make westerners angry. You expect us to respect your religion but give no respect in return. Any reasonable criticism is met with cries of bigotry or racism. We see the news and hear about countries like Sweden which now has the highest rape rate in Europe, thanks in large part to unimpeded Muslim immigration. All the while the Muslims tell us how peaceful they are and how wrong we are to criticize. That assumes a stunning level of stupidity on the average westerner. Like the old saying goes; “What you are speaks so loudly I can’t hear what you are saying.”
Rukhsana Khan
27|Sep|2015 19I think anyone would rightfully be angry if others are imposing their beliefs on them.
I know of no Muslims who want to impose sharia law on anyone. That’s a straw man.
Wearing a face covering, putting blackout curtains on swimming pools do not impose anything whatsoever on you.
People need to mind their own business.
There is nothing wrong with religious accommodation.
As for double standards, yes. They definitely exist.
I don’t hold Muslim countries up as any sort of paragon of tolerance. In fact many times I’m extremely embarrassed by the way Muslim countries and Muslims treat people of other faiths.
I can only talk about Canada.
In Canada we claim to be above that. We claim to respect people’s rights to practice their religion freely as long as it doesn’t impinge on the rights of others and face veils and most religious accommodations don’t affect other people whatsoever!
We’re supposed to be better than that.
All the best,
Rukhsana
Victor
28|Sep|2015 20Please don’t insult my intelligence. I’m Canadian and know very well that Muslims have attempted to have sharia law implemented in Ontario for the settlement of domestic matters such as divorce, child support, etc. No, the sharia wouldn’t apply to non-Muslims and wouldn’t affect me directly. That’s not the point. What you apparently fail to understand is that most Canadians find sharia offensive, and rightfully so. Same goes for the blackout curtains, etc. Canadian women have fought diligently for years to earn equal
status in our society. Sharia is an abomination based on bronze age superstition which treats women as second class citizens. It has no place in modern society.
As for accommodation, I think we are pretty accommodating. We allow you to practice your religion without fear of reprisal. It’s more than most Muslim countries will do. Be thankful for that and stop trying to change our great country into the type of third world hell hole that Muslims are now fleeing from.
Rukhsana Khan
28|Sep|2015 21I’m pretty sure that a lot of women appreciate black out curtains. Who wants any passer by ogling them in their bathing suits or swim clothes.
These forms of accommodation take nothing away from you! You need to mind your own business.
In order for all Canadians to get along we need to respect each others’ differences and as much as possible accommodate them. There are many things I accommodate of other people, I see nothing wrong with asking for accommodation myself.
Personally I think it comes down to paying taxes. As long as we pay taxes we can have a say in what our country is.
As for the sharia courts, those were just like the Jewish courts and the Christian arbitration courts that followed the law of the land but helped moderate between parties and avoided going into the legal courts and clogging up the legal system.
They weren’t ‘sharia’ based.
And you’d be surprised at how compatible most sharia law is with Canadian law. Anything that was incompatible would be over-ridden by Canadian law. That was given.
You need to educate yourself on these matters. I know you feel strongly and you’re frightened, but the Muslim community is not as unreasonable as you think it is.
I LOVE Canada! I believe in it! I’m not trying to change it.
These rights of accommodation are part of the Charter of Rights, so you stop trying to change them and deny them!
And any terrorist, Muslim or no, should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!!!
So we actually have a lot of common ground.
Victor
28|Sep|2015 22I think it’s interesting that you point out how much you love Canada and aren’t trying to change it. You then immediately follow that sentence by trying to sell your right to accommodation. I’m sure you would love if people like me minded our own business if, in your mind that business meant preventing people like you from ruining our country. The fact is, my country and what happens to it is my business.
The fact that you argue in favour of sharia law tells me quite a bit about you. Are you also in favour of stoning for adultery and death to apostates? Actually it doesn’t even matter much how you answer because polls have shown that in all but the most moderate Muslim countries a large percentage (40‰ or more) of the people do agree with these things. It’s perfectly fair to guess that a large percent of muslims here have a similar mindset. That type of disease is something most Canadians don’t want here. You can say how much you love Canada but if it was true you wouldn’t be arguing for something so perverse as sharia law.
Rukhsana Khan
30|Sep|2015 23As a citizen who pays her taxes, I have the same rights of accommodation as anyone else in this country.
I respect the law of the land, and I abide by it.
And I do love this country. It is not what it used to be.
Victor
30|Sep|2015 24No, it’s not what it used to be. We can certainly agree on that if nothing else.
MAK
19|Nov|2015 25Great Article Rukhsana. I am glad that you wrote it and replied to so many with so much patience. That’s what Islam is all about … peace and patience. Alas some will never accept it and people like Victor will keep pushing you unreasonably. Its true that Canada is no more what it used to be and its more because of intolerance of people like Victor. My message to all the Muslims to hang in there and ignore the hatred around you and to all Canadians to please accept and love each other and stay united. That’s the only way we can defeat terrorism.
Rukhsana Khan
19|Nov|2015 26Thanks! I tried my best to reason with Victor, but to no avail. Some people don’t respond to reason.
Love
06|Jan|2016 27Hi Rukhsan
it’s a good article to start. I would differ in: when we move from one country to another we are moving because of so many good reasons and not by force. those good reasons will prevail only if all who come inside also follow local culture more. though western countries have invaded earlier, muslim countries equally did the part invading other nearby countries. for eg.. India was heavily invaded and now India muslim population is second largest of any mu slim nation. India is more tolerant e en today and so western counties were tolerant and accepting. the same is not followed by muslim countries by record. another thing I know many muslim friends are changing intreating and liberating their women. we all should be changing and should not be holding to our roots more than basic needs.
James
03|Feb|2016 28If Muslims want to live in Western society, to work and eat in Western society, they should speak the language of that Western society and should respect the laws of that Western society. If they prefer Sharia Law and to live the life of Muslims, then they should move to those places where that’s the state law. Western society does not need Muslim minorities. Muslim minorities need Western society, and thus, Western society does not need to grant them special privileges, or try to change laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. Western society should not tolerate those who disrespect Western culture. Western customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims. When a legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind a country’s national interest first, observing that the Muslim minorities are not of that country’s interests.
Rukhsana Khan
04|Feb|2016 29Hi James,
That is not what the law says. The law does not regulate languages people speak in their private dealings, nor should they.
Of course Muslims must respect the laws of Western society. No problem with that. And speaking the language makes sense, but it’s not something that should be forced on anyone.
‘Western’ culture is fluid. Always changing.
immigrants
30|Mar|2016 30[…] immigration to our countries […]
Mary
29|Jun|2016 31The problem is not ‘immigration’ but it is ‘al-Hijra’ or the Islamic mass immigration to takeover your country to make it Muslim. They want the whole world to be Muslim. It is in the Koran. Thinking that Islam is a just a religion is the biggest mistake the West has made. It is political, judicial, social and religious…in other words, it is a way of life. The Muslim women out-reproduce which is how this will happen. Wake the hell up. Basically, we are in the middle of a religious war with Islam but we are too stupid to even figure it out because we’ve been trying to be ‘inclusive’ and embrace diversity.
Rukhsana Khan
04|Jul|2016 32You’re nuts Mary if you think there’s some kind of mass movement and diabolical scheme to take over the west. But you’re right that it is a way of life. Muslims for the most part are very family oriented. And we like children. Nothing stopping you guys from having children too.
Laine Gress
20|Jul|2016 33I’m with Mary and Victor all the way. Black out curtains…really? To expect people living in western culture to capitulate to something like black out curtains is ridiculous! Can you only imagine all the other concessions that would be expected. The curtains are only the smallest tip of that iceberg. Oh and by the way, women in our culture spend a lot of time shopping for just the right bathing suit and they like people to see them in that suit so…why do you think they should be denied that opportunity?
In my opinion we are headed for disaster, bringing in mass numbers of Muslim immigrants is not going to end well at all and we should not delude ourselves into thinking it will. The cultural differences are simply too extreme. Just saying. Say whatever you like after this Rukksana but you will not be changing the minds of a lot of people out there and certainly not mine.
Rukhsana Khan
20|Jul|2016 34I can see there’s no changing your mind. It’s sad when people close their minds after they feel they’ve researched enough.
I prefer to keep mine open.
Laine Gress
20|Jul|2016 35But you don’t keep your mind open at all Ms. R. You already made it clear you want black out curtains and all that entails and you suggest those who don’t agree with you on the matter should mind their own business so…your mind is very clearly made up and further you are not prepared to negotiate for a majority rules decision on the matter.
It feels like your comments are simply a lot of double talk and ministry of truth type stuff. Your idea of accommodating differences seems to be a one way street. You want black out curtains and the vast majority of people in the western world do not ergo in the world of Rukhsana… black out curtains it should be.
Not to mention you use what I would consider abusive language in calling Mary nuts. That doesn’t sound like a respectful exchange of ideas to me. Now I find that… really sad.
I think on some level I will be surprised if you post this 🙂
Rukhsana Khan
21|Jul|2016 36I’m planning on addressing this in my next post.
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